Ruben Kassas

Ruben Kassas (Postman): Generative UI & Beyond Chat

Ruben Kassas argues models are already good at writing UI but true generative UI hasn't arrived — today's chat is like the 1970s terminal and the industry is still waiting for its 'Mac OS moment'. He points to visual collaboration, like the Excalidraw MCP app and ChatGPT canvas, as the likely next step, and weighs personalized super-apps against monopoly concerns. His advice to companies: stop over-investing in UI that agents will bypass and focus on collaboration and human-friendly visualization. The segment ends with the hosts juggling last-minute changes to the guest lineup.

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