Damien Tanner

1 episode · 1 moment · last on 20 Feb 2026

20 Feb 2026Europe $1B Seed Round, Perplexity Kills Ads, Toyo's OpenClaw for Enterprise

1:38:5920 min

Damien Tanner (Toyo): Agent OS, Pivot & $4.3M Seed

Damien Tanner joins — though one host still can't hear him — to discuss Toyo's $4.3M seed led by Frontline Ventures and its pivot from voice AI to an "operating system for agents": a coding-agent harness that gives agents a secure cloud computer, browser and MCPs. He explains that vibe-coding an internal CRM showed agents don't need human-facing UIs, argues productivity SaaS is devalued in the "SaaS-pocalypse" while critical and niche software survives, and predicts humans will shift to directing and validating agent work. Toyo starts with overwhelmed SME founders — its voice-agent onboarding calls average over eight minutes — and will target enterprises later.