Jamie Palmer

Co-Founders of Icarus Robotics

@j_palmer90

3 episodes · 5 moments · last on 18 Sep 2026

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2:00:03

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2:32:289 min

Icarus Robotics: ISS Launch Plans & NASA Safety Reviews

Ethan Barajas and Jamie Palmer return with their announcement with Voyager Technologies: the Icarus robot hands over in December and launches to the ISS in Q1 2027, using the Bishop Airlock — making them the only commercial company with volumetric space on the station. The robot will handle cargo bag logistics and maintenance so astronauts, who cost about $130,000 an hour, aren't wasted on unpacking. Jamie walks through the roadmap: parabolic flights for microgravity testing, terrestrial test rigs like gyros and air bearing tables, and three phases of NASA human-spaceflight safety reviews. Ethan points to tailwinds like Artemis 2 and the SpaceX IPO reframing space as infrastructure, arguing orbital logistics will require general-purpose robotic labor.

2:40:596 min

The $130k/Hour Space Labor Problem & ChatGPT Futures

The pair frames the mission economically: astronaut labor at $130,000 an hour (about $3.2 million a day) doesn't scale, and cheap robotic labor could do for orbital work what SpaceX ride-share pricing did for launch, spawning a 'new space' generation of companies. Success, they say, is the first company built on the premise that Icarus robots exist. They report inbound interest from the Space Force's servicing, mobility and logistics team at Patrick Space Force Base as well as VCs, though they aren't fundraising until the end of the year. Jamie also explains their inclusion in OpenAI's ChatGPT Futures class of 2026, sending the cohort to California in a few weeks, before the show wraps.

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1:51:139 min

Icarus Robotics: a labor force for space

After stream fixes, Icarus Robotics co-founders Ethan Barajas and Jamie Palmer explain building "the labor force for space": robots that take menial tasks off astronauts, who cost ~$130K/hour to keep alive, so they can focus on in-orbit manufacturing of pharmaceuticals, semiconductors and fiber optics. Jamie traces his path through hospital robots, UV-disinfection robot deployments during the pandemic, Mercedes F1 and Columbia robotics; Ethan through building a NASA ISS plant-growth lab at 17, Caltech/JPL and the CADRE lunar mission, noting a blockbuster cancer drug generating $25B/year (49% of Merck's revenue) came from space research. They are on contract to deploy full-scale to the ISS in 2027 with NASA and Voyager, starting with cargo resupply — seven days on and seven days off unloading CTB bags — and the microgravity challenge of handling unknown masses (segment continues past the end of this part).

2:00:335 min

Icarus Robotics: Microgravity Robot Controls & Interviewing Astronauts

The Icarus Robotics co-founders explain the core control problem: stabilizing a mobile robot in microgravity while picking up NASA cargo transfer bags whose contents, weight, and mass distribution are unknown. They argue human teleoperation comes first, making the robot more robust and generalizable while the human pilots collect expert examples to train future full autonomy. They also describe how they landed astronaut meetings before funding — the space industry's culture of helping younger founders, including Tim Kopra taking a call and then opening the door to Starlab's C-suite.

2:05:099 min

Icarus Robotics: Commercial-First Space Strategy & 2026 ISS Plan

The founders describe the shift from government-run low Earth orbit (ISS, NASA grants) to commercial stations — Starlab/Voyager, Vast, Axiom, and Sierra Space and Blue Origin's Orbital Reef — which let them go commercial-first and only recently spin up a federal side for Space Force and Air Force interest. Partners like Voyager handle integration, safety, and ops planning so they can launch and test more. They tie their value prop to NASA's changed $2B commercial station contract: fewer crewed months means robots cut costs and enable science and manufacturing revenue during uncrewed periods. For 2026 they're focused on building one space-ready robot for the ISS, with neutral-buoyancy underwater tests and 'vomit comet' parabolic flights to gather microgravity data.