Valentino Pacifici

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Sana Labs: Culture Carriers & Rebuilding Abroad (Valentino Pacifici)

The hosts wrap up their conversation with Valentino Pacifici of Sana Labs on expanding the company into new countries. He argues expansions should be led by top-performing "culture carriers" given full decision-making freedom, and that employer branding must be built intentionally with a "zero to one" approach — creating buzz inside targeted companies. He also reflects on the pressure of living up to the enormous early hype around Sana, before the hosts say goodbye.

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Apoha: Liquid State Intelligence for Drug & Material Discovery

First-time guests Anshika Srivastava and Shamit Shrivastava, co-founders of Apoha, introduce "liquid state intelligence" — using wave ripples in materials to compute how substances behave. They explain the core problem they solve ("find me something that behaves like something else"), describe work with customers like Boehringer Ingelheim, and how they predicted late-stage drug failures with over 90% precision using just eight micrograms of material. They also argue the next wave of AI requires new classes of physical data spanning the remaining senses, and tease recent preprints and an upcoming product launch.

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