Giovanni Vignone

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Giovanni Vignone (Octane Security): AI & On-Chain Security

Giovanni Vignone, founder of Octane Security — which builds AI to find mission-critical vulnerabilities in source code for clients like the Ethereum Foundation, Sky, Bland AI and Corgi Insurance — gives a state of on-chain security: exploits are accelerating (April set a record for monthly exploit count), nation-state actors are involved, and AI is collapsing the time-to-exploit. He explains frontier models alone don't find the worst bugs — it takes evals, datasets and end-to-end workflows — and says customers are most scared of new model releases like Anthropic's Mythos sparking new waves of bug bounty submissions. He argues SOC 2-style compliance is outdated, that over-permissioned agents leaking credentials create attack paths traditional DAST/SAST can't catch, and that Mythos is a net positive but no silver bullet (only 3 of 40 CVEs in a recent Firefox release were credited to Anthropic). He predicts the majority of the ~$200B annual security spend will shift to agentic security — over $100 billion.

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Outro & Base Plug

Giovanni wraps his bullish prediction on agentic security spend, and the hosts thank him and invite him back for future temperature checks. They close the show with a plug for Base, 'the infrastructure for the on-chain world.'

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