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Ian Rogers on Ledger's Agent Stack and Agent Security
Returning guest Ian Rogers, Ledger's Chief Human Agency Officer, unveils V2 of Ledger's agent stack, demoing an agent executing a USDC swap that must still be confirmed on the hardware wallet. He argues for a deterministic approval or policy step kept outside the LLM, discusses the accelerating white-hat vs black-hat exploit race, why Ledger Donjon was excluded from Anthropic's Project Glasswing as a French company, and the global game theory around slowing AI development — plus the Christian Hosoi skateboard gift in his backdrop.
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Ian Rogers (Ledger): Securing the Agentic Economy
Ian Rogers traces his path from building Beats Music and Apple Music and LVMH to Ledger, where the chief experience officer role was about making crypto consumer-grade — heeding Tony Fadell's "there is no B2C in crypto" challenge — via better devices and the Ledger Wallet 4.0 app. He announces a new title, chief human agency officer, and a roadmap of primitives so AI agents must verify identity and request keys and permissions from a human backed by a hardware root of trust, framing agent-orchestration as the future of work. On the Mythos launch and the OpenAI-vs-Anthropic security narrative, he argues AI has collapsed the cost of attacks while the software attack surface explodes, with Ledger's Donjon white-hat team using AI defensively.