Ian Rogers
31 Jul 2026Situational Awareness | AI Stocks Fall | OpenAI Join Us | Ebay Scandal
1:31:5420 min
Ian Rogers on Ledger's Agent Stack and Agent Security
Returning guest Ian Rogers, Ledger's Chief Human Agency Officer, unveils V2 of Ledger's agent stack, demoing an agent executing a USDC swap that must still be confirmed on the hardware wallet. He argues for a deterministic approval or policy step kept outside the LLM, discusses the accelerating white-hat vs black-hat exploit race, why Ledger Donjon was excluded from Anthropic's Project Glasswing as a French company, and the global game theory around slowing AI development — plus the Christian Hosoi skateboard gift in his backdrop.