Ian Rogers (Ledger)

1 episode · 1 moment · last on 15 Apr 2026

15 Apr 2026OpenAI Leaked Memo, AI Zuck Avatar, Anti-AI Attacks, Chimp Wars

2:32:1517 min

Ian Rogers (Ledger): Securing the Agentic Economy

Ian Rogers traces his path from building Beats Music and Apple Music and LVMH to Ledger, where the chief experience officer role was about making crypto consumer-grade — heeding Tony Fadell's "there is no B2C in crypto" challenge — via better devices and the Ledger Wallet 4.0 app. He announces a new title, chief human agency officer, and a roadmap of primitives so AI agents must verify identity and request keys and permissions from a human backed by a hardware root of trust, framing agent-orchestration as the future of work. On the Mythos launch and the OpenAI-vs-Anthropic security narrative, he argues AI has collapsed the cost of attacks while the software attack surface explodes, with Ledger's Donjon white-hat team using AI defensively.